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 [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo

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PostSubject: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:50 am

India Agra Fort Rush

By MrMilo

This strategy has been around in several different forms since the early days of The Asian Dynasties. The idea is to build an Agra Fort as a forward base, sacrificing your early economy to get a fast advance time and hitting your opponent quickly. In doing so, you take advantage of India’s bonuses. First, you can send the equivalent of a villager card (1.25 wood/second & one villager) without any population room. Next, you can build that large fort in the middle of the map, giving you map control, a quick advance, a place to drop off shipments, two sepoys upon age-up, and a barracks to boot! Finally, you can train villagers while you go up to the second age, allowing your economy to catch up after you have sacrificed it for a fast advance time. The result is a strong, fast rush that can fall back on map control and a relatively good economy.


In this guide I’ll outline the basics of executing the Agra Fort Rush, also known as the 10/10 rush (because you advance to the second age with 10/10 in population space), giving you to tools to perfect a build order while also outlining some ways to adapt to different situations.

When to Agra Rush: Starting Gold Is Not Your Friend
As India, you will always start with 300 wood and 200 food in crates, plus one extra, random crate. I like doing the Agra rush only when that extra crate is either wood or food. When it’s gold, I find that my age-up times are too slow, and I might as well advance normally with a better eco, as it won’t be much slower.

Getting Started
As soon as the game begins, task villagers to your starting wood crates. Try to start training your first villager within seven seconds. Quickly send out a villager to move hunts back towards your town center, but only work one herd towards your TC at the beginning. Because your villagers cost wood, you only need to gather 600 food (plus your 200 food in crates) to advance, so walking a villager to get your second hunt, when the first herd will have enough food to advance, will slow down your age-up time.

Train Villagers Until Your Pop Is Full: Don’t Build a House!
You want to stop making villagers and put everyone on food when you reach 10 villager population and you don’t want to build a house! India starts with six villagers. That means when you start with 400 wood (that’s 300 starting wood, plus an extra wood crate), you won’t put any villagers on wood: just send everyone straight to food! When you start with an extra food crate, you’ll need to gather 100 wood before you can put everyone on food. I like to put 5 villagers on wood so I get the wood quickly.

Scout and Creep: Find a Spot for the Agra while Focusing on Food and XP
Your top priority with your two explorers is to find a place to place your Agra. It’s a pretty big building and you have to keep in mind the no-build radius around your opponent’s town, so this can be tricky. Go after food and XP treasures before you start building the fort. You want food because it can improve your age-up time, and XP will help get you your villager card sooner. Once the wonder is being built, food, wood, gold, and XP are all great to get, because you can use all of them when you’re in colonial.

Start Building Your Agra
You want to start building your Agra the very second you have 800 food. Because you want to build your Agra forward, it can be a little tricky to time this correctly. My general rule is to send one villager out of my town to where I want to build the Agra when I have about 650 food. For bigger maps, you’ll want that number to be a little lower. for smaller maps, or if your only good spot for building the Agra is closer to your town, you’ll want that number to be a bit higher. Once the Agra starts building, you have a decision to make: should you keep the villager building or task her to gathering? If you let the fort build by itself, you’ll get to colonial a square two minutes after you started building it. If you keep a villager on the fort, you’ll age up ten seconds faster. I like to have the villager gather during this time. The 120 Villager seconds you’ll gain is equal to 60 wood, 72 gold, or 101 food (if you’re hunting). One thing to avoid is tasking that forward villager to hunting if your opponent hasn’t already seen your Fort being built. If he sees a dead animal through the fog of war, he will likely infer that you are Agra rushing him, without actually having to scout you.

Reorganize Your Economy: Everyone to Wood
As soon as you gather 800 food, put all of your villagers onto wood. You need to get villager production going again, but before that you need a house. Build it and train that villager as quickly as possible. Around the time you start your fort, you’ll send your first card: Distributivism. That’s going to give you a 1.25 wood trickle + 1 villager. Once you get villager production going again, keep in mind those roughly two “invisible” villagers which are gathering wood as the game goes on. As you age up, maintain constant villager production and build one more house (total pop = 30) before you hit colonial. You’ll need 6 or so villagers on wood to do this after you get that house done and the initial villager out. You’re going to be making sepoys once you age-up: organize your other villagers accordingly, keeping in mind what treasure you’re getting.

Get Your Sepoy Army Going and Attack!
As you reach colonial, start training sepoys from your Agra Fort (you should be able to get four or five in your first batch), send your 2 free sepoys to your fort, and ship 5 sepoys. As soon as your first patch of sepoys and shipment have arrived, go put pressure on your opponent. Keep in mind that 6 sepoys kill a villager in one volley, so splitting your sepoys into two groups early on can be useful.

Adapt!
From here on out, there are a bunch of different things you can do. You’ve likely attacked your enemy before he can get much military going, so you’ll have the advantage of shutting down his economy. You can keep pushing militarily, building more sepoys, or gurkha if he’s building heavy infantry, and shipping 4 sowars as your next shipment. You can also invest more heavily in your economy, sending Foreign Logging (that’s 2.35 wood/second, plus one villager) and building a market quickly. The longer you can maintain your map control advantage and the longer the game goes in colonial, the better position you’re in. India has really great 2nd age cards that provide you with an incredibly strong and diverse army. (Don’t forget to use your consulate! The British are almost always your best option.)

Deck
Here’s an example deck for a land map. I suggest working with something similar to this. Take out cards that you find yourself not using and put things in that seem more useful to you. The two unit shipments and camel upgrade cards are really must-haves, however. [Example deck will be posted soon]

Note on Special Maps
This strategy is incredibly effective on maps that start you with extra resources, such as Carolina and Deccan. You can start building your fort very early in the game and you’ll usually not lose any time in villager production!

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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:30 pm

ty dude, this is a treaty clan, but posts on rush are good too, i know me and dutch play quite alot of sup games too so ty
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:47 pm

cool. i know its a treaty clan, but rush is fun when you dont have alot of time to play.

I love rush, it is so fun.
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:57 pm

lol, I love doing this India strategy. It is so OP!!!. I also love playing rush. flower flower flower flower flower flower
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:17 am

my favorite way to play rush is not to rush. You simply make alot of ourpost and wait for them to come to you, then you own them with cannon and attack them and kill em.
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:36 am

well nice post dude Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:23 pm

of course it is a nice post, india sucks so bad, they need all the help they can get.......lol
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:52 pm

Lol India is a bit Op in sup so expect a nerf on them on the next patch
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:29 pm

i actually don't think they will get that big of a nerf, the es mods think they are balanced just fine.
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:04 am

well when they get down from dumbass land then maybe they will nerf em. India are soooo good. Like insanely good. I played an indian player and he had triple of everybodies score at like 20 mins, he hadnt even attacked us and we hadnt attacked him.
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:36 am

DarkHex wrote:
well when they get down from dumbass land then maybe they will nerf em. India are soooo good. Like insanely good. I played an indian player and he had triple of everybodies score at like 20 mins, he hadnt even attacked us and we hadnt attacked him.

I relly wanna learn this agra fort rush, can someone teach me sometime cos i would really wanna learn rush and this agra fort shiz sunny
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:05 pm

the agra fort rush really only works in a 1 vs 1, its not to effective in a team or 3 v 3 game.
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:15 pm

dutchmaina_cl wrote:
the agra fort rush really only works in a 1 vs 1, its not to effective in a team or 3 v 3 game.

ye sounds relly fun strat, dutch could you show me it when im on later, sounds really fun
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:59 pm

ya, ill own you with it a couple of times, and you might learn a thing or too from that...lol
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:13 am

dutchmaina_cl wrote:
ya, ill own you with it a couple of times, and you might learn a thing or too from that...lol

lol. I wish there was a rush that was good that didnt involve sacrificing everything lol. (like eco and vill production)
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:05 am

^^^^^^^^china in rush............???

always continuously getting villes and army

what i do is for china in rush......11 villes all on food when wait till i can age, put like 5 building the wonder, still getting villes, putting the newly made onto wood, , i use the wonder that gives you 400 food. then send the 700 wood card as soon as you age. i do this b4 units bcoz you really need it wid china as it lets you get war hut consult and villiage. in age II i have 12 on food, then keep getting villes, put 8 on wood, then starting spamming villes onto gold( not taking any off the over res)
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PostSubject: Re: [Standard] Agra Fort Rush - Mr Milo   Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:51 am

DarkHex wrote:
dutchmaina_cl wrote:
ya, ill own you with it a couple of times, and you might learn a thing or too from that...lol

lol. I wish there was a rush that was good that didnt involve sacrificing everything lol. (like eco and vill production)

with india, I normally have constant villager production, Idk what you are talking about=)
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